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View Poll Results: What type of intake mod. do you have?
Stocker Air Box 38 26.39%
Minor stocker box tweak(e.g. Snorkel removed) 12 8.33%
Bean Box Mod. 25 17.36%
Thunder Mfg. Intake 23 15.97%
Hypercharger 24 16.67%
Other (Post what you did!) 22 15.28%
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:10 AM   #11
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Ahhhh, Boris, re-read my above posts. Kury Hyper, K&N filter, jetted and tuned carb, V&H ShortShots (with provided baffles). Also, a HyperCharger is more than just an air filter. Otherwise, you could get the same HP and overall performance gains by duct taping or gorilla glueing a cone filter to the carb plate. Filter alone without such a designed housing would decrease performance (irregardless of jet/tune or not). Does a lot more in reference to air porting and varied induction in concert with increased fuel input, etc... And yes, honda does leave HP on the table. EPA regulations in Europe, US (especially the SSM, Socialist States of Marxistfornia), etc. force them to choke them down. Actually, with the right knowledge, capabilities, tools, resources, and trial & error, a tech can squeeze a 20+ HP gain without crackin the engine. But, that's for later.
Not wanting to start a pissin match just clarifying and drawing attention to ALL contents of previous posts as not to confuse those looking to do such mods. This is an awesome place to glean ideas and experience from. However, to do so, one has gotta READ EVERYTHING.
Maybe you Esteemed Elder Riders need to add "READITALLYOUFUCKINNOOB" to the end of "SEARCHBUTTON-USEITYOULAZYDIP-DI-DEENOOBBASTARD" But, I am a Noob, so, back to the F'n Off with me. Great Day To All!
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:32 PM   #12
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HitCat44, I did read everything and this is the line I was refering to.

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HitCat, nice...not a bad setup at all for the cashish! I've heard similar HP increase stats from a hypercharger on the SS750...roughly 10-11 HP.
As you can see, there is a claim out there that a Hypercharger is solely responsible for a significant power increase.
I'm also well aware of the fact that any manufacturer has to comply to emission standards and they often compromise. That was a bit of sarcasm on my part.

Now to the Hypercharger. Please prove to me how a scoop over an open element air filter will show any improvements over just an open filter element or no filter at all on a dyno. The only angle the Hypercharger has is the ram affect. The bike is stationary on a dyno with a shop fan blowing onto the motor. Yeah, not enough CFM to see any ram affect. That whole fluid dynamics thing is a bitch.
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:47 PM   #13
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P.S. Mr HitCat44.
I don't play that "noob" game so the seniority shit means nothing to me.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:26 PM   #14
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Bean Box hands down........IMO the rest are for looks, when stacked against the performance where the BB Mod is concerned.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:29 PM   #15
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Concerning what HitCat is saying above , yes it's true that you can gain a lot of horse power simply by introducing a massive amout of air into the combustion chamber along with the fuel for the burn. But sorry HitCat there is no way in the fucking world that your going to gain as much as 20 HP out of a SS750 just with a superdooper intake. The key to getting more power out of an engine is to increase the amount of fuel/air mixture that is burned over the piston. There are 6 ways to do this: 2 do not invlove opening the engine and they are 1) a better air delivery system. and 2) Better pipes.
The other 4 ways involve getting into the engine: Bigger bore, Longer stroke, Hotter cams, Trick headwork.
Increasing the fuel flow is pretty easy though, it just means bigger jets/better needles.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:06 PM   #16
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Concerning what HitCat is saying above , yes it's true that you can gain a lot of horse power simply by introducing a massive amout of air into the combustion chamber along with the fuel for the burn.
That is 100% true plus you need a way for the burned mixture to leave the combustion chamber.
Fancy air filters are just that, fancy. Much less restrictive (in most cases) than the OEM intake but that's it.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:15 PM   #17
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Right Boris, without a way for that burn to leave it's like having a cork in your butt (stock pipes) while taking the gag off your mouth(stock intake), while you can now get more in, theres no way to let it out....You have to have decent pipes to let it out and still have the scavenging effect. Just changing your pipes doesn't really do much at all for increased power, on account of your not letting more in i.e. air/fuel.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:26 PM   #18
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....You have to have decent pipes to let it out and still have the scavenging effect.
Bingo.


So, wonder where a vortex generator or any other fancy flow altering intake device that is installed before the venturi fits into the power equation ?
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:31 PM   #19
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I've read a lot of different opinions on how much material can be removed from the back side of the breather box when doing the bean box. I'm thinking that i'll remove all the thin part towards the front and put some kind of screen over the opening to keep out the big chunks. My only worry is riding in the rain (which I do a lot of). How much did you take off Mcvierh, and have you had any issues with rain?
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This is the stuff I removed, I've ridden in driving rain for extended periods and have never had a problem. Finished product looks like this,
Thats a K&N filter in there.
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