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Old 04-15-2011, 05:29 PM   #11
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Excellent, thanks Doc!

Do you guys think a 180 on a 5.5" would fit in with the stock fender? I know i know, I should get an aftermarket, but I'll have a Slitherin seat so no need for me to go aftermarket.
A 180 will work because a 200 does.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:32 PM   #12
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Excellent! Sadly, the tire really factors into the possible build, as the difference between a 180 and 200 can be $70+. In the long run not much, but everything adds up.

I see you went with the black caliper as well, and it seems I can find those on ebay for around $60 or so. Where did you get your wheel Doc? I see 18" on ebay for around $400.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:48 PM   #13
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I told you He was the man on that HD wheel swap skinny.....

Maybe you can talk him into that "How-To" for the Sticky you were wanting. Prob just cut, paste, and compile from what has already been written.
Since Doc Shadow has done his part on gaining, implementing, and divulging the knowledge, why don't you pay it forward to Bro & Forum by doing the secretarial work compiling into one thread. Hmmmmmm......
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:51 PM   #14
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My wheel was $168 shipped from American Classic Motors. I spent about 230 shipped on the tire. Dont remember where I got it. It was on ebay. The rim I got also didnt require a tube or rim strip, just the tire. The best deal ive ever seen! I have a softail caliper from ebay. I paid 55 shipped and it was like new with new pads. Ebay also. The caliper did require a little fabbing. It had a built-in wheel spacer which was too long. I simply cut it to what needed. It was also made for a 17" rim so I had to round off the corner by the rim. That was also easy cause its aluminum. Then touched it up with flat black to match.
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:03 PM   #15
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHROME-16-X-5-5-60-SPOKE-REAR-WHEEL-200-TIRE-HARLEY-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b889dae2QQitemZ14053 4995682QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

This is what I bought. I was $168 shipped 2 years ago.
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:13 PM   #16
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I've been looking at the harley swap for a while too. And like JonnyC said, it seemed like every thread had partial info that the other one didn't. This one has a little bit more + links to the others. I'm thinking this may be the one to sticky.

Fellow mods, what say you?
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:20 PM   #17
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Another simple brake option is to use FabKevin.com rear brake set up as seen in my photos.
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:24 PM   #18
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Here's a good close up.[IMG][/IMG]
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:59 PM   #19
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Dear n00b,

I remember how difficult I thought this swap was going to be, way back when I too was a dumb no0b.

then I did it.

not bad at all.

and also, since I'm so fuckin nice I answered all but one of your questions.

now start buyin parts so I don't feel like I wasted my time.

[but really, it's stupid simple. esp without the rear brake. buy axle, wheel, tire, and sprocket (I did new chain too) mock up, measure for spacers, make spacers, install, hit the road]




1. Difference between '99 down and '00 up rear wheels?
  • People say '99 are a lot easier to work with, why exactly?
never heard that. here's the difference:
"WRONG!
The axles are the same on both the 1999 & 2000. The difference is in the bearings and the raised rotor center. The 2000 rotors have a larger center hole. Because of the sealed bearings the 2000 wheels use a different length spacer. The 1999 and down wheels have bearings, seals and outside washer.
You can put a 1999 wheel on a 2000 model by using the earlier spacers and the 2000 rotor. However, in order to put a 1999 wheel on the 2000 model you would have to make the center hole on the rotor larger and use different spacers. You will also have to modify the rear pulley to fit on the later wheel."

Now that was referencing a Fat Boy, so not sure some of those things are universal, but it's a pretty legit explanation of the differences.
  • I know '99 down has 3/4" axle, but are all '00 1" axles?
See above.
  • I know '00 up have sealed bearings, I assume that's an advantage no?
I haven't had any issues with bearings and it's been 2 years (i think?) since the swap. I plan on replacing bearings when i replace sprocket in a few k miles. If you take your time and do it right, you won't have any issues at all.
  • Does '00 up allow for a sprocket from Sprocket Specialties (or other place) to be bolted up?
not sure. I'd bet you could order a sprocket with that bolt pattern and our chain pitch, just as easy as I ordered mine.

best bet? call sprocket specialties and ask. If they can't do it, you're gonna be hard pressed to find another place that is somewhat affordable.


2. Wheels sizes
  • What can I fit in the stock fender? Most people go with an 18" x 5.5". Can that fit with a 170/180 tire instead of a 200? Are there any 4.5" Harley rims that would work?
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=4.5&_kw=x&_kw=wheel&_kw=harley

short answer, yes.

long answer, i wouldn't go lower than a 180 on a 5.5 rim. 200 looks tits, though. Do a little grinding on the subframe and the 200 fits no sweat. Or you could do what I did, and just put a steel fender on. You can do what you want as far as looks, and it's strong enough you can even let fat chicks ride your bike. You can find 'em cheap if you do some looking around and don't buy the first one you see.


3. Axle options
  • Is there any downside to getting a 13.5" 3/4" harley axle for $20 instead of having my stock one turned down?
hell no. that's what I did, and it saved big$$
  • If a '00 up wheel with 1" bearings worked, couldn't I just sleeve the stock axle to bring it to 1" in the middle?
axles arent different. see above. but, yes, if you got 1" axle wheels you could probably make it work. I would suggest seeing about getting bearings with OD of 1" and ID of whatever our axle is.

As far as i've ever seen, anyhow, most 1" axles are on the 23" front wheels and 8.5"+ rear wheels

Either way, there's so many 3/4 axle wheel choices out there, that this shouldn't even be an issue.



Other than that, it seems rather inexpensive to pick up a used caliper, CBR master cylinder, fabricate a brake stay, and figure out what spacers are need for the axle and sprocket.


--didn't install rear brake, but someone will chime in on that

--spacers are easy as shit. mock everything up, make sure your chain is straight, and measure for spacers.



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Old 04-15-2011, 08:06 PM   #20
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Good write-up purple! Its very easy once you start doing it. The brake is simple too. He just gave you a list of about all you need. I used a 9/16" sprocket spacer. You will need a sprocket spacer if you havnt read that already.
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