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I'm GOING to CUT the stock pipes up 2002 Sabre 1.1k, What size bit do I use to rejet?
Old 08-20-2009, 05:40 AM   #1
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Thumbs down I'm GOING to CUT the stock pipes up 2002 Sabre 1.1k, What size bit do I use to rejet?

Sup! I have read most of the other articles about having custom pipes, etc. I want to cut the existing pipe right before the baffle. Eventually I'll add a k&n filter, but in the mean time, I need to re jet, and lightly drill out the metal cap protecting the gas/air flow screw. (3 1/2 turns from close) Now what size bit do I need to open the jets up? And, how about now and when I add the K&n filter.

Please be thorough when responding, use a step by step procedure, plz (or video/pics). There are a lot of people out there looking for this type of info., but don't be a hero if you have to guess. Thanks for the time.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:07 PM   #2
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:43 PM   #3
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To get rid of that nasty popping on decel, you have to have more fuel at idle. I originally just raised my idle with the idle screw (the black knob on the left side of your carb in front of the throttle wheel that you cable run to from the throttle on the handlebar), until I could figure out where the air mixture screw was.


On the left side of the carb where the throttle wheel is, right below it you will see a silver plug ( mine had a felt tip marker slash on it, that way they can tell if it's the original I guess) about 1/4" in diameter. Forward of it is a brass screw that is the drain screw for that carb. If you turn that screw counterclockwise to unscrew it, fuel will start dribbling out of the little nipple right below it.

SO DON'T DO THAT, I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT.

Anyway, I got a small drill bit, about 1/16" (I think), and carefully drilled a hole in the center of the plug. Don't push too hard or it will go through the plug and hit the screw behind it. Use just a little pressure. After drilling, get a sheet metal screw that has threads a little bigger than the hole you just drilled and start to screw it in the hole. When it gets tight, get a pair of pliers and grab hold of the screw (vice-grips would work good here) and carefully tug on the screw. Eventually the screw with the plug attached to it will pop out. Look into the hole the plug came out of.
There you will see the holy grail, the brass AIR MIXTURE SCREW!



Repeat the steps above on the right side carb. To get to the right side carb, you will have to remove the air box. The air box comes off easy. Use the allen wrench in your bike's toolkit to remove the six screws that hold the airbox cover on. Pull the filter out.


On the back side of the airbox on the front and rear, (looking down from the tank) you will see two bolts with allen sockets in them. Use the other allen in your kit to remove these, or a ratchet with a 10 mm socket. The heads are about 1/2". You can't miss them.
Then, look behind the airbox on the forward side near the top. There is a steel band that is tightened around the tube that leads from the airbox in the top of the carbs. Loosen the screw on the band. Now just pull the airbox toward you and down and out she'll come.









Now you can see the plug over the right side air mixture screw in the same place as on the left side.



According to the Honda Service Manual, the factory setting for these screws is 2 1/4 turns open. These screws adjust the amount of fuel that the pilot jets (idle jets) squirt into the carbs. Carefully screw each one in until it lightly seats closed, and count the number of turns. This will tell you the number of turns each was open and give you a new starting point for adjustment. Now carefully screw out (open) each one to 3 1/4 turns open (1 full turn beyond the factory setting).
If you're picky, like me, take each plug you removed and drill the hole just large enough for the tip of your little tiny screwdriver to get through, then reinsert the plugs. Or, you can stick a little dab of silicone sealant in each hole. It sets up, hold the screw, and comes out easy if you want to "fiddle" later on.
That's all there is to it! It's actually pretty simple, just need someone to tell you where stuff is. And pictures are always helpful.


Scans from the Service Manual covering the mixture screw adjustment.


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Cutting UR Baffles (pipes) OFF 4 the NOOBS!
Old 08-29-2009, 03:12 AM   #4
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Cutting UR Baffles (pipes) OFF 4 the NOOBS!

>>FOR THE NOOBS<<<<<< U wanna chop ur pipes off to here's a few tips, and a start point.

Things UR going to Need:

-K&N Filter model# HA-1287

-DynoJET Stage 1 (Carb) Kit, or Morton's JET kit (ensures engine doesn't run lean)

-Adjust the Air/Fuel mixture (drill out cap on sides of Carbs adjust one full turn counter-clockwise)

-Morton's Power Cones (retain's Backpressure so you don't burn a valve or get some crazy popping when you slow down) link: http://www.mortonscustom.com/sweepers.html

-Stalker II pipes (Sickest looking pipes U'll find, also at Morton's) link: http://www.mortonscustom.com/hondapipes.html
OR, chop the baffles off of ur bike and let that Bee-itch scream (just make sure this is the last step)

Only thing I haven't found out is how to get rid of that ugly azz exhaust bracket without sticking the plasma cutter to it! I'm going to call Morton's again and ask him if his stalker 2 pipes come with a replacement bracket. You see that exhaust bracket also doubles as a engine support/mount. And, just to think a week a go I didn't have a clue. FUK U "YO MUDA", and his ugly ass bike, AND Thank you so much "mcvierh" for all of the help, pics, and tutorial. UR Awesome.

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Old 08-29-2009, 09:32 PM   #5
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Yer just jealous of YO MUDA cause he's got a shadow, and u aint got shit n00b.


no pics=no bike.

So, Fuckoff n00b. Welcome to the insanity man, and that was a good write up.

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Old 09-01-2009, 11:34 PM   #6
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The exhaust bracket is a winter project for me. from what I can see, you can get it off and add a spacer or washers to fill that space. It is ugly as sin to look at once you have removed your stock pipes as I have.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:05 AM   #7
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stupid noobs, use the search button! haha

p.s. MCV, thanks for all your write ups man, out of all the crap that gets posted here, you are about 3 others actually have viable shit to offer..thanks, my pipes, jet kit and being a bad ass went smooth with your knowledge base...keep on keepn on!
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Just Chopped that Sit OFF!!!!
Old 09-09-2009, 04:47 AM   #8
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Just Chopped that Sit OFF!!!!

Just Chopped my shit off!!! I'm at the Point of NO Return.

WOW! That ShiT is LOUD! This fucker is spitting fire!! Hell yeah! I just want to back up to a gas pump, light my cigerette behind my pipes, and blow that bee-itch up....hahahaha
I took the bike down the road into a wide open area, and NOW I can really appreciate the fact that sound travels at such a slow speed! I can hear the bike beneath me, but the fuk'N echo from a distance sounds like "GOD FarTeD", I think my dick got hard.....whoohoo.
Still gotta install the Jet kit. All I have done is open the carbs. PoPPED in the K&N !!!!
>>>>>Morton's Powercones WILL NOT work with stock pipes, Hope I don't fuk up anything? I need the old schoolers to shoot me a line on this one, tell me what you think.

4 the other NOOBs following this:
If you decide to chop ur pipes, ur going to have that ugly ass bracket hanging!!!
EZest way to deal with it is a plasma cutter! but if you don't have the extra $700 to spend on it, use an air or electric grinder! Buy a grinder and use a small cutting blade, I made my shit look Like it came stock. No need for washers and all that other douching around.
I hope to post pics soon, but my tank is all fukd up andI have a dent on my rear fender! The rest is going well, but it is a bit , humm what is that feeling embarassing. Fuk that, I'm proud of my grey Baby! I'll try to post pics tomorrow...
1 other thing noobs!
Get use 2 the whole fuck off noobs thing it is a right of passage I guess. I myself am ruled by my emotions and before I finally realized its just part of something bigger, I was ready to send out so really nasty Christmas Cards, or fuck someone up, and possibly piss in someones asshole. So, take it EZ! No one explained it to me.


By the way,

FUCK all the NOOBS!
I'm Anthony!


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Old 09-09-2009, 04:51 AM   #9
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I Went to the Doctor yesterday , and he said I have a Fat AZZ Cock. Does anyone know what I should do? I've been PounD'n as much Pussy as I can, but I have the same symptoms?

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Old 09-09-2009, 09:40 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by xXSLYXx
Just Chopped my shit off!!! I'm at the Point of NO Return.

WOW! That ShiT is LOUD! This fucker is spitting fire!! Hell yeah! I just want to back up to a gas pump, light my cigerette behind my pipes, and blow that bee-itch up....hahahaha
I took the bike down the road into a wide open area, and NOW I can really appreciate the fact that sound travels at such a slow speed! I can hear the bike beneath me, but the fuk'N echo from a distance sounds like "GOD FarTeD", I think my dick got hard.....whoohoo.
Still gotta install the Jet kit. All I have done is open the carbs. PoPPED in the K&N !!!!
>>>>>Morton's Powercones WILL NOT work with stock pipes, Hope I don't fuk up anything? I need the old schoolers to shoot me a line on this one, tell me what you think.

4 the other NOOBs following this:
If you decide to chop ur pipes, ur going to have that ugly ass bracket hanging!!!
EZest way to deal with it is a plasma cutter! but if you don't have the extra $700 to spend on it, use an air or electric grinder! Buy a grinder and use a small cutting blade, I made my shit look Like it came stock. No need for washers and all that other douching around.
I hope to post pics soon, but my tank is all fukd up andI have a dent on my rear fender! The rest is going well, but it is a bit , humm what is that feeling embarassing. Fuk that, I'm proud of my grey Baby! I'll try to post pics tomorrow...
1 other thing noobs!
Get use 2 the whole fuck off noobs thing it is a right of passage I guess. I myself am ruled by my emotions and before I finally realized its just part of something bigger, I was ready to send out so really nasty Christmas Cards, or fuck someone up, and possibly piss in someones asshole. So, take it EZ! No one explained it to me.


By the way,

FUCK all the NOOBS!
I'm Anthony!




email: anthony2@charter.net




no photos man??!
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