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Old 01-27-2012, 12:47 PM   #21
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+1 to newageroman's comment on the dual carb intake tract

I haven't look in a couple of years, but everyone's attempt at modifying the intake on the dual carb 600 shadow failed. Idling was fine, however, once riding and under load, different story. No one had success at actually improving power, mpg, etc. Modifying the intake tract can lengthen/shorten the intake signal and create nightmares. On a single carb motor, less of an issue, because tuning is a breeze. Dual carb, not so much. From my research, most, if not all, returned to original intake.

Curious to see how this works. Carb settings, jetting and elevation?
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Old 02-02-2012, 05:03 PM   #22
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Hey, BE, how tall are these filters?

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I couldn't find a source that I trusted to get the Kijima filters for my TCU Build, so I ordered these and was hoping they would work or I could figure out a way to make them work...


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Old 02-02-2012, 06:05 PM   #23
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I'll have to try to put a tape on them...don't really know. Here is the link I actually bought. If you get them they sell them in a set of 4 for about $5 more, wish I would have gotten 4 so I would have extras, but did not think of it tell I already ordered.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/380354999929...84.m1439.l2648
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:56 AM   #24
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Cool! And they don't cost an arm and a leg either! thanks man! I think I just decided what mod I'm gonna do this month!
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:05 PM   #25
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Measure 3 1/4" top to bottom.
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:08 PM   #26
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Got my jets today. They are already in my carbs. I've been running the carbs from my parts bike til I got my jets and gaskets, so I didn't have to have any down time while waiting on gaskets. Now, I'm not exactly a mechanical retard, but carbs ain't really my bag, so I got some questions, what are these tiny washers for? There were none on the original jets, where do they go? Also, I got my jets from CarbJetKits.com and they came with no instructions, I got no 'jet needle' or drill bit to do any drilling, as demonstrated in the afore posted how-to pics, so am I done other than replacing my gaskets? What is the purpose of drilling the hole in the carb cylinder?

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Old 02-09-2012, 08:57 PM   #27
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I'm not 100% sure, but I those washers may be to "shim the needles", but they might be for the washers on the bottom of the float bowls (but those are lockwashers, and yours arent').

Most of us jet the carbs using the DJ kit (which is a HUGE waste of money because you end up using only the needles). If you look at my posts (page 17-22 or so) about needles in the other thread on this, you should be able to get some needles only for CHEAP that are VERY similar to the DJ needles.

If those washers are for shimming the needles, I believe you would do so by putting them on top of pointy end of the needle. Basically it would make the needle sit higher in the jet and let more fuel through. The DJ needles have litle grooves and c-clips in them that does basically the same thing. Good luck with it and please post results. I haven't seen many dual carbs jetted with shims (you may need a micrometer and sandpaper to fine tune). The drill bit that is included in the DJ kit is to drill out the little hole in the bottom of the plastic part of the slide. I'm not 100% on what this does, but I think it makes it more sensitive/slide faster/slower cause more air can go through. Also, just as a note, you will not be able to accurately match our jetings with the needle you have (even if you stack the shims at what would be the same as the DJ settins [3rd from the top]), because the stock needle is MUCH fatter. The DJ needles (and the other ones I mentioned) are really skinny and have a much more prominent taper to them. Having said that, I bet you could still get really close and much better than stock. AND... If you get hesitation just off idle, maybe put the stock pilot jets back in. Mine is still doing this some and I'm going to try switching back to stock 40s as soon as I get a chance.

Just throwing this out there... Its my build page. The dual carb rebuild has LOTS of good pics. I made it for you guys, so enjoy...: http://www.bprater.com/joomla/index....d=37&Itemid=76
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The shims are to put on the needles imstead of a notched needle. Drilling the vacuum slide is not a requirement, but can give you a snappier throttle response. McVierh recommended to me that it really was not necessary with the 600 because of the zip it already has.

Now, would you be willimg to part with that spare set of carbs?
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I would BE, but I'm trying to get papers on the parts bike so I can have another project.
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I would BE, but I'm trying to get papers on the parts bike so I can have another project.
Had to ask, need a set for Lelands split mull modification.
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