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Old 05-21-2012, 08:40 PM   #11
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i put EBC on.. $40 fuckin bucks, can't imagine honda engineers would let this go. Might as well be a fat lady in an old caprice with a jack in the box wrapper stuck to my ass.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:28 PM   #12
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i put EBC on.. $40 fuckin bucks, can't imagine honda engineers would let this go. Might as well be a fat lady in an old caprice with a jack in the box wrapper stuck to my ass.

I don't know if this still applies, but the teacher of my small engines/transmissions course back in 1999 once told us that when it comes to brake pads, the ONLY thing you are paying for is a name. If they are asbestos pads, the generic brands are made the same, of the same materials, as the raysbestos ones and to not waste your money..
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:35 PM   #13
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yea, someone's gotta pay for the advertising.. i happen to work in advertising so i just suckered myself. i was going to buy the OEM ones but the line at the Honda parts counter was to long so i got the EBC off the shelf. that's me drinking the Koolaid
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:42 AM   #14
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yea, someone's gotta pay for the advertising.. i happen to work in advertising so i just suckered myself. i was going to buy the OEM ones but the line at the Honda parts counter was to long so i got the EBC off the shelf. that's me drinking the Koolaid
I can't talk too much trash about branding.. I refuse to buy any hand tools that aren't craftsmen (except for two speed handles because the local Sears was out of stock and I didn't want to wait for shipping..) and all my power tools are DeWalt.. I know a wrench is a wrench, and I've heard Ryobi is just as good for half the price, but I get OCD on the uniformity thing and everything looking alike and whatnot :P
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:48 AM   #15
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Branding ain't the half of it! You know those nice, fancy Wagner (or other premium brand) ceramic pads you buy at the parts store for your car for $100/pr? I know a guy in the auto parts manuf. industry that was a higher up at one of the plants where they were made. He said they did not sell ANY part to their jobbers/distributors for more than $8. Makes you sick to think of all the money that gets tacked on between them and the consumer. Heck, if I owned one of those companies, the FIRST thing I would do is open a webfront and sell them for 4x the price I sold to my jobbers (to cover the retail overhead), and maybe I wouldn't have to start miking them overseas, at least for a few more years!
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:54 PM   #16
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Branding ain't the half of it! You know those nice, fancy Wagner (or other premium brand) ceramic pads you buy at the parts store for your car for $100/pr? I know a guy in the auto parts manuf. industry that was a higher up at one of the plants where they were made. He said they did not sell ANY part to their jobbers/distributors for more than $8. Makes you sick to think of all the money that gets tacked on between them and the consumer. Heck, if I owned one of those companies, the FIRST thing I would do is open a webfront and sell them for 4x the price I sold to my jobbers (to cover the retail overhead), and maybe I wouldn't have to start miking them overseas, at least for a few more years!

actually, that particular style of "branding" is exactly what i was referring to. a guy in the class swore by raysbestos brake pads, that's all he'd buy, the instructor was telling us that no matter what name is on the box, they were probably all made in the same factory by the same supplier and sent to different distribution houses who had their own reputations and could put what price they wanted to on it..

"Cheap Shit Parts" might charge $10 for the same exact part that Mopar will want $120 for...
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:15 PM   #17
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Hey you guys with drum brakes...

Take the shoes out and file a 45 degree angle on the leading edge of both shoes.

That'll help keep the noise down. What you're hearing is the front edge of the shoe chattering against the drum.

It's called a, "Chamfer".

Do it and see. I wouldn't lie.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:01 AM   #18
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Another thing is your puting a smooth object agsinst a already grooved object(new shoes to a grooved drum)you got to allow for some seat time and the champher edge doesn`t hurt.
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When its time for brakes theres a company by me that makes racing brakes for almost any pads needed. Different compounds may just swing by, its where i buy c16 race fuel.
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Another thing is your puting a smooth object agsinst a already grooved object(new shoes to a grooved drum)you got to allow for some seat time and the champher edge doesn`t hurt.
maybe that's why I don't remember this from my beetle when I had four drums.. I think I always had the drums honed at least if they didn't need to be ground at all, just to get a new mating surface when I changed the pads..
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