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Old 03-23-2015, 03:17 PM   #21
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I'm positive that if I still have this bike come winter, i'm going to cut in in half and hard tail it. With the sportster shocks on the rear it may as well be hardtail now. I'm going to run the rear frame tubes back to the drive plate (a new drive plate with tabs to hold the frame tubes). The driveshaft will be exposed, and the diff will be bolted right to the frame/drive plate. It won't be a halfassed hard tail with struts or anything. The entire swingarm section of the frame will be cut off so there wont be a cluster fuck of frame work in the lower section. But all that is IF i keep it all year.
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:25 PM   #22
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I'm positive that if I still have this bike come winter, i'm going to cut in in half and hard tail it. With the sportster shocks on the rear it may as well be hardtail now. I'm going to run the rear frame tubes back to the drive plate (a new drive plate with tabs to hold the frame tubes). The driveshaft will be exposed, and the diff will be bolted right to the frame/drive plate. It won't be a halfassed hard tail with struts or anything. The entire swingarm section of the frame will be cut off so there wont be a cluster fuck of frame work in the lower section. But all that is IF i keep it all year.
I would love to see that. Hard tail on a shaft drive. Pondered different ways that might work on a C2. Would be interesting to see how you pull it together.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:38 AM   #23
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I would love to see that. Hard tail on a shaft drive. Pondered different ways that might work on a C2. Would be interesting to see how you pull it together.
I found this pic online, most "hardtail shaft drive" bikes are just strutted and or the top frame tubes are cut off and made new, leaving the swingarm. To me that takes the purpose out of it. If you're going to leave the swingarm and all associated weight with it, why not just have suspension? If it was all cut off, the bike would weigh like 40-50lbs less and look way f'kn cooler!

Back to my junk!

replaced carb diaphragms, super easy.

I also found out what to do with my choke cable... GET RID OF IT COMPLETELY!

How cool is this

Dirtbike pull choke! (yes i have two) but it gets rid of the cable, and it's one less thing to take off when i have to pull the carbs.

I also re routed the choke and brake hydro cables, as well as changed fluid, and moved the throttle cables around. It looks 1,000x better in the front end.


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Old 03-24-2015, 06:08 PM   #24
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For the record, that bike is an 800, not a 700. I'm gonna be starting a complete chop of one of these bikes in the next couple weeks, I'll trade you a copy of your chopped wiring schematic for a PDF of the shop manual, if you don't have one already.
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:02 PM   #25
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What bike is a 800?
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:23 PM   #26
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Yours is. Honda made the VT700 from '83-'85. In '86 the import tariff on bikes over 700cc was lifted, so Honda made the VT800 from '86-'88. It's actually a pretty rare bike, but not necessarily worth keeping stock (financially speaking, cause you won't get more than 2k for a stock one in great condition). There are a few telltale signs that it's the 800, the biggest of which is that airbox on the side. Then there's the axle, on the 700s the forks were offset about 1" behind the axle, whereas if you'll notice your axle is in line with the centerline of the forks. Motor is visibly different, pipes route differently, frame has some significant changes, main tank is smaller and reserve is bigger, etc. and so forth. Basically, Honda fixed everything that made chopping and modding the 700 difficult, except for that goddamn tank spine/carb setup. That got wayyyyy wierder, with the air intake becoming part of the frame itself.

Take a looksee at some of my pics and you'll see what I mean. Mine is an '85 T700c. The build thread has more up-to-date pics, and lots of pics of it torn down to nothing, so you can see the differences that are normally covered up. (link)

This is why I need to pick your brain. I know pretty much everything about the VT700, but the 800 is just enough different that I've caught myself scratching my head a few times already on this project.
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:28 AM   #27
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This bike im working on is a vt700. My title says vt700, my engine says 694cc, wikipedia says this:

In 1986, The "VT700C" model rear fender took on a flair look over the rounded style. The engine is the same as the 1984 model except polished instead of black with the right engine cover graphic painted black. The mufflers were a little lower and changed from the flair look to a more straight style. The front pegs and controls were moved forward, the rear foot peg support bracket became solid and the back rest was optional this year. The cast wheels changed from a ten-spoke to a five-spoke design and the access covers were chromed. The "VT750C" was available outside of the USA (Canada and Europe) with a larger engine displacement.

The 1987 "VT700C" model featured the same engine as the 1986 model but with the right engine cover graphic not painted. The side covers are chrome, five-spoke cast wheels with a single front disc brake.
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The VT800C was only made one year, 1988, after the tariff was lifted. It had spoke wheels, not sure what else because i haven't looked but i thought pretty much everything else was the same as the 86-87 VT700c's

The frame/airbox issue can be fixed by cutting the back bone out and making a new one. You could then use velocity stacks or what ever you wanted for an intake or a fuel tank. It would also give you more fuel in the tank depending on tank choice.

Here is a picture of a vt800 (yes, the rear spoke wheel will fit i've read..) everything is basically the same as the 86-87 vt700c.

But yeah NOOB ;) , if you have any questions or anything i can help. So, do you have a vt700 or a vt800? Either way, they should be exactly the same.
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Old 03-26-2015, 09:24 AM   #28
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My bike needs fork seals and steering bearings pretty bad.. ordering em now.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:20 AM   #29
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:58 PM   #30
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here is my wiring diagram. you can thank me if you'd like.
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