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Old 02-20-2014, 11:22 PM   #21
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:40 PM   #22
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Crazy Your beginning to repeat yourself
lol... just making sure u knew i hadn't changed how i felt on the subject ;)... plus im at work and a lil board..
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:51 PM   #23
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No worries man.... I'm Still waiting for you to start that thread on puff paint and costume jeans though
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:54 PM   #24
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No worries man.... I'm Still waiting for you to start that thread on puff paint and costume jeans though
lmao... i forgotten about that.... might need the wifes help for that write up..
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:54 PM   #25
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:46 AM   #26
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WTH with that license plate longshot???? Mine is half that size here in Ontario. Yours looks like a standard car lic. plate
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:27 PM   #27
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Yeah. That pic makes it look pretty big. They are definitely bigger than in the USA. Might be bigger than Ontario. They increased the font size on the BC plates a few years ago too. I actually thought of trimming it but I'm already pushing my luck with the side mount and non- dot lights on the bike. Don't need to make it any more of a heat score.
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:01 PM   #28
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Actually elduner I believe that you may be mistaken.
I know that before I wrapped my fenders etc in the 3m di- noc carbon finer vinyl I researched it a lot. I viewed the actual manufacturers site.
The wrap I used is considered a permanent finish. It's guaranteed for 4 yrs outdoors and 8 yrs indoors. It's from their arcitectual vinyl line and can be applied to almost anything including wood concrete plastic primer etc.
this stuff is everywhere you just don't realize it. Often when you go into a hotel or bar or store and see brushed metal finishes, carbon, stained wood, etc on the walls it's just particle board with vinyl wrap over it.

Just you tube some applications on vehicles and you will see just about anything can be wrapped and it's not temporary by any stretch.
The pieces you made are super easy to wrap with out having to heat up the material and having to lift it. On a primered surface it will usually lift the primer and effect the bonding process... I have wrapped Hood, roofs, trunks and plenty of spare parts...

Problem is when it starts lifting and debris gets in the nooks and crannies..

This is wrapped but under there is Powder Coating..



The forks are also wrapped with 7 year vinyl....



you can always put a little glue in places where it wont effect your paint...
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:26 PM   #29
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Vinyl

Sorry elduner wrong again. ...that's two and O.

The parts on my bike include multiple curves and recessions... No exactly "super easy to wrap". Here is a link to a photobuchet pic of my speedo console.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps3e1e3402.jpg

These parts are much more curved and intricate than what 3m recommends this particular vinyl be applied to. Still turned out nice. Trust me it was a two man job, involving lots of heating stretching and repositioning.

It would impossible to wrap parts such as those you see on my bike without heating and stretching the vinyl wrap. I'm not entirely sure we are talking about the same products. You said earlier that you only do vinyl decals not wraps. Vinyl wrap such as the carbon wrap I used is more like a super heavy duty Saran Wrap with pressure sensitive adhesive on it. It's not vinyl decal or sticker material like one might use to make signs.

The wrap such as 3m di- noc has very advanced adhesive on it. The adhesive side is covered in millions of microscopic glass spheres. So when you lay it on the surface you are covering it hardly sticks at all. Once you have heated and stretched it into place you can affix it permanently by heating it again and applying hard pressure with a squeegee. The heating softens the adhesive and the pressure forces the microscopic beads to sink into the ashesive and allow a solid semi- permanent bond. Additionally, the adhesive is covered in a fine grid of air channels so that as you are laying it down air can escape leaving the application bubble free.

As for heating and stretching. It would be impossible to wrap anything with two seperate and lateral curves ( such as a fender) without stretching the material being used to wrap. Just try to lay a piece of paper flat onto a fender and you will see exactly my point. Luckily most of these vinyls allow for 10-20% stretch in either direction before their image begins to distort.

As for the primed surface I'll take your word for it. 3m says their wraps will bond to primer but I can certainly see how trying to peel up the vinyl from a sandable or scratch fill primer might be cause for some cursing.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:34 PM   #30
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Trust me it was a two man job, involving lots of heating stretching and repositioning.
We don't want to hear about your bromance noobert.
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