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Old 02-28-2014, 04:39 PM   #31
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Bald eagle, your comment went right over my head at first. Nice!!
The " two man job " was me and my wife ... You know , for the record.
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Old 02-28-2014, 04:55 PM   #32
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Sorry elduner wrong again. ...that's two and O.

The parts on my bike include multiple curves and recessions... No exactly "super easy to wrap". Here is a link to a photobuchet pic of my speedo console.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps3e1e3402.jpg

These parts are much more curved and intricate than what 3m recommends this particular vinyl be applied to. Still turned out nice. Trust me it was a two man job, involving lots of heating stretching and repositioning.

It would impossible to wrap parts such as those you see on my bike without heating and stretching the vinyl wrap. I'm not entirely sure we are talking about the same products. You said earlier that you only do vinyl decals not wraps. Vinyl wrap such as the carbon wrap I used is more like a super heavy duty Saran Wrap with pressure sensitive adhesive on it. It's not vinyl decal or sticker material like one might use to make signs.

The wrap such as 3m di- noc has very advanced adhesive on it. The adhesive side is covered in millions of microscopic glass spheres. So when you lay it on the surface you are covering it hardly sticks at all. Once you have heated and stretched it into place you can affix it permanently by heating it again and applying hard pressure with a squeegee. The heating softens the adhesive and the pressure forces the microscopic beads to sink into the ashesive and allow a solid semi- permanent bond. Additionally, the adhesive is covered in a fine grid of air channels so that as you are laying it down air can escape leaving the application bubble free.

As for heating and stretching. It would be impossible to wrap anything with two seperate and lateral curves ( such as a fender) without stretching the material being used to wrap. Just try to lay a piece of paper flat onto a fender and you will see exactly my point. Luckily most of these vinyls allow for 10-20% stretch in either direction before their image begins to distort.

As for the primed surface I'll take your word for it. 3m says their wraps will bond to primer but I can certainly see how trying to peel up the vinyl from a sandable or scratch fill primer might be cause for some cursing.

I will agree to disagree....

I will tell you this much.. I wrapped my side panels and fender myself without a second set of hands... Using 3m material. I know the difference in material. Just takes a little bit of work... If I had to use a second set of hands on small pieces like that I wouldn't make any money from my Hobby/side business...

My fenders and side panels where painted so I had no problems reapplying vinyl. On gas tank was more issues cause the primer was being pulled by vinyl... and sorry but once that adhesive is full of crap it don't reapply with heat and squeegee...

I choose not to do wraps as it will eventually peal and look ghetofantabulous...

I also did not use the CF pattern I was using the flat black as I didn't think CF and bobber had anything in common... But yours looks good... Good luck...

and if it make you feel better here... 3-0 I don't give a flying phuck... lmao
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Old 02-28-2014, 05:26 PM   #33
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Elduner. 3 and oh indeed.

It's like we are speaking a different language or something.... I agree that primer peeling off would be a serious problem. The heating and squeegee are used to get the microscopic glass beaded to sink in, not shit that you got all over the film.

As for it eventually peeling. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, I'm quiet certain that it will need less attention than satin or flat paint would.

Yes it's an 07 spirit bobber. The lines of what bike class or genre it belongs in are already pretty blurred. That's the great thing about customs
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:52 AM   #34
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Wrapped a Ford F250 for my business......multiple angles and body creases and it turned out nice. Looking into it for my bike.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:55 AM   #35
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Hey trike. ,make sure you keep us updated on that if you decide to do it. Would love to see pics. Guys who claim it will peel and fade are mostly just ignorant to how good these products are now. I know guys who have entire cars done for years and you can't tell it's not paint.
These wraps are absolutely everywhere now. Most people don't realize.
Now you will have to excuse me. I have to go look for my truck, don't remember where I parked.
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:57 PM   #36
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Well if it were flames or aircraft skin I would be all for paint vs vinyl. However short of laying up some real carbon fiber vinyl is the most cost efficient way of going about it.

I think your results came out nice. They do have some interesting wraps on there.
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Old 08-23-2014, 04:53 AM   #37
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I know the thread is old, but does anyone know if the stuff comes in a high gloss as well? I'm still into stickers!
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:28 PM   #38
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Nice Work! i love black.. so cool!
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:14 AM   #39
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:31 AM   #40
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Vinyl or paint? The pic is a bit small.
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