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Old 03-26-2017, 02:22 AM   #1
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Weld in hardtail question on my build, uneven tubes

I'm chopping up my 89 vlx and I ran into a bit of a catch I was hoping some of you folks could help me work through.

For those of you who have done a weld in hardtail, was your left side different than your right? From what I can see, the left side of the swing arm is farther offest from the centerline of the bike than the right is to accomodate the chain and sproket. Is that right?

I'm working with equal length and equally bent weld-in tubes from the swingarm to the seat frame, and I can't get it to line up right. Basically, the right side tubes line up perfectly, but the left side tube seems offset by almost a full pipe diameter. I'm using slugs, so my weld in tubes will be fully in line with the swingarm or frame tube they're welding into. This means I can't weld the tube on the left at an angle. All of the bent needs to happen in the tube, it'll look better that way.

I'm not crazy right? I should just bend my left weld-in tube more than my right, right? Or should all of this be even and I fucked up in some other way that I'm only realizing now? People thay havr built their own weld-in tubes, isbyour left tube different than your right?
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Old 04-03-2017, 03:25 PM   #2
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I'm chopping up my 89 vlx and I ran into a bit of a catch I was hoping some of you folks could help me work through.

For those of you who have done a weld in hardtail, was your left side different than your right? From what I can see, the left side of the swing arm is farther offest from the centerline of the bike than the right is to accomodate the chain and sproket. Is that right?

I'm working with equal length and equally bent weld-in tubes from the swingarm to the seat frame, and I can't get it to line up right. Basically, the right side tubes line up perfectly, but the left side tube seems offset by almost a full pipe diameter. I'm using slugs, so my weld in tubes will be fully in line with the swingarm or frame tube they're welding into. This means I can't weld the tube on the left at an angle. All of the bent needs to happen in the tube, it'll look better that way.

I'm not crazy right? I should just bend my left weld-in tube more than my right, right? Or should all of this be even and I fucked up in some other way that I'm only realizing now? People thay havr built their own weld-in tubes, isbyour left tube different than your right?
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:50 AM   #3
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Go to tj brutal customs web site . Look up his hard tail kit. Look at the pics. You did not post pics of what you did so its harder for folks to answer your question.
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Old 04-05-2017, 12:44 PM   #4
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I looked at TJBC's pictures of his kit and the pipes look the same size and angle. Either way, I just used some muscle and flexed my left side tube enough that the slug lined up with the seat frame and then hammered it in. I think it'll be OK, I guess we'll see though when I get it on the road if the strain in the frame affects the ride.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:11 PM   #6
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I went with the TJ Brutal kit just so I wouldn't have to buy a tube bender. You are absolutely correct, they are not even on both side (the bike) and the TJ kit is. I think this is in part why the kits tubes are not a tight fit into our frames. I think I used about $70 in welding rods trying to fill in a part of those 3/32" gaps. I didn't want to have a hell of a time lining things up on the swingarm pivot point/rear motor mount so I carefully used a bottle jack to bend things so it would line up with little effort when reinstalling motor. In hind sight, I kind of wished I went the tube bender and slug route, but with enough welding and grinding, it'll look fine.
Out of curiosity, how did your rear motor mount bolt go in? Is this where you needed to muscle it in?
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Old 04-16-2017, 06:08 PM   #7
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I didn't take my motor out at all so I didn't screw with my motor mount. I had to muscle the left side tube and slug into place and that was it.
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